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Post by Hood on Jun 16, 2006 18:40:22 GMT -5
that's true, I forgot about that. When you build the machine yourself there is that sweet added bonus of being able to say that you built this puppy, that always is nice... like building a new dragster or something. That tops buying a dragster from a showroom any day
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Post by ©Slingshot on Jun 16, 2006 18:48:07 GMT -5
There is nothing better than claiming bragging rights for building a kickass computer from a pile of electronic parts, and seeing the beast emerge as a point of envy for all of your friends! Not to mention being able to say that your mates were ripped off when they spent 3 times what you did, and only have half the beast you have!  |
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Post by Mästêrchiëf on Jun 17, 2006 12:16:21 GMT -5
I would vote but ive never tried a MAC so i can really say wich is better, by what Ive heard windows is better. I use windows and i really like it.
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Post by (KA)50 §£n† on Jun 17, 2006 13:27:47 GMT -5
wow when i started this thread i did not expect so many posts you guys work fast
anyways i can't stand the windows they are so unorganized, just stuff all over the place
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Post by Templar on Jun 17, 2006 18:30:41 GMT -5
All this new information on Macs is quite interesting but I still don't understand why, if Macs are so Superior to windows, that you decide to pay approximately $200 dollars on Windows XP just to run it on your machine?
Not to mention I hear that it's mighty buggy...
Plus if windows is so "laggy" then what would even be the point of putting it on a Macintosh? As Macs don't have "up to date" hardware and probably wouldn't run things like games very well (Games within the past year that is)
And I'm still failing to understand what makes Mac software "better".
There are great programs available on the PC also such as Vegas, Sonar, Sony Acid, Adobe Premier, Fruity Loops etc...
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Post by (KA)50 §£n† on Jun 17, 2006 21:19:41 GMT -5
All this new information on Macs is quite interesting but I still don't understand why, if Macs are so Superior to windows, that you decide to pay approximately $200 dollars on Windows XP just to run it on your machine? Not to mention I hear that it's mighty buggy... Plus if windows is so "laggy" then what would even be the point of putting it on a Macintosh? As Macs don't have "up to date" hardware and probably wouldn't run things like games very well (Games within the past year that is) And I'm still failing to understand what makes Mac software "better". There are great programs available on the PC also such as Vegas, Sonar, Sony Acid, Adobe Premier, Fruity Loops etc... okay maybe this is it macintosh has speed and doesnt crash and windows have better programs that would explain it all |
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Post by Templar on Jun 17, 2006 21:29:08 GMT -5
okay maybe this is it macintosh has speed and doesnt crash and windows have better programs that would explain it all Actually most computers that have Windows...are faster. Such as mine. And yes Macs crash. Just this year at my high school I was using a Mac in one of my classes... The mouse somehow got unplugged...and that was the end of that computer. It wouldn't even turn on after that. Pretty lame  Not saying they crash as much as windows but they do crash  |
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Post by {§}V3NOm{§} on Jun 17, 2006 23:05:15 GMT -5
and since mac's are getting more popular with intel and everything your going to start seeing alot more virus's made for macs also.
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Post by Hood on Jun 17, 2006 23:08:35 GMT -5
Templar - Sorry, some misinformation. When you bought your PC, you were required to PAY for Windows XP. If you had bought a PC with Linux pre-installed, you would likely have saved $100+ off of your purchase. Buying a mac is no different. You CAN pay $100+ more for macs with Windows XP pre-installed, but you shouldn't be forced to.
As for buggy, that's a twist. The software we currently use to dual-install is a Beta, meaning it's still in development. As such, it's expected to have some bugs left, although I have yet to encounter one. Other than that, my mac is a full-fledged Intel machine. It's got some hardware in it that Windows has never seen before, but Apple worked with ATI and the other companies to turn out windows-compatible drivers.
As for how fast my machine is: It runs Star Wars Battlefront faster that most PC's I've seen. I've got it set to 1680x1250, FULL quality on all settings, and getting flawless gameplay. I can't turn the settings up any higher, and it's smooth as glass. How many here can say the same? The same is true of TOCA Racer 3, etc. I've heard reports of DOOM, half-life, etc. all running at MAX settings.
Since I can keep all my work safe and secure on the Mac end, and enjoy games at screaming speeds on the windows end, why would I want just a windows-only machine?
And virii, we're likely to see some eventually, but only if Macs get more than a 30% market share (we're at 5% now). Nobody writes virii for that small of a market. We have yet to enounter our first. Somebody proved that a trojan could be written, but it required you to run it and click "approve" (as opposed to windows virii that infect your machine before you even open the email).
Currently we have Zero viruses (os X has been out for a few years now), and Vista already has a few, or so I've heard (and it's not even out yet).
Sorry, your PC might be a camaro, but mine's a Hummer. Mine might not fit in a lot of parking stalls, but i can take it a hell of a lot more places, and I never worry about speed bumps. And personally, I like how it handles (and looks) better.
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Post by Templar on Jun 18, 2006 0:27:10 GMT -5
Pretty nice info you have Hood but, of course, I'm going to have to disagree on a few things ;D That must be nice but SWBF isn't exactly very taxing...At all even at a res such as that. Trying playing a game such as Oblivion or FEAR on your Mac. I bet it couldn't keep up Doom? Half-Life? ... Are you referring to Doom 3 and Half-life 2? That's pretty cool...OSX has been out for a few years and still hardly any viruses. Now as for Vista that's somewhat understandable... Just a week or two ago Microsoft released Windows Vista Beta 2 to the public for free and of course even I downloaded a copy. But releasing a major OS to the public for free is going to attract those hackers... But I have yet to have any problems running vista on my computer and it seems to have plenty of security. But of course it is still beta and they (Microsoft) still has some work to do on it. |
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Post by lol on Jun 18, 2006 2:28:36 GMT -5
Hey you guys, I know your past the discussion on the 360 mouse wheel, and I'm not sure if you had already figured this out but the scroll "wheel" on the Mac Mighty Mouse is more like a scroll sphere because it actually rolls in any direction, like the old non-laser mouses people used to have. Actually it's the exact same thing but in a smaller scale. And on a side-note, do you think it would be possible to download the Windows Vista Beta 2 like Temp said, but then install it on a new Intel Mac using boot camp? because that would be awesome.
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Post by nc]innova on Jun 18, 2006 10:30:30 GMT -5
hmm i know this qoute is from a whole page back but i dont have time to go through and read all the other posts after it
Pffft. A computer running windows xp proffesional x64 edition (not 64bit edition. they are different) can support 128GB of ram if i remember one of my last college assingments correctly.... you MAY need to get some more ram slots though. lol
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Post by {§}V3NOm{§} on Jun 18, 2006 14:46:00 GMT -5
and guess how much 16 gb of RAM would cost for a mac? almost 12000 just for 16 gb now thats going a little far and only big time people who use it for business or other things would need that much memory.
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Post by Hood on Jun 19, 2006 21:28:27 GMT -5
OS X (the operating system) supports more than 16gb of ram. My post was talking about how the oldest CPU (computer) in the mac lineup supports 16gb of ram standard. Windows XP supports a lot of ram too, but try looking up the specs on the machine you own right now. How much ram does it support? I'm guessing about half of what that old mac does. The brand-new higher-cost Dell I referred to in my post maxes out at 4gb of ram (1/4 of what that old mac offers).
As for the price, yes, 16gb of ram is HELLA expensive, whether you buy it from Apple, Dell, Alienware, etc. I never buy ram from any computer manufacturer. DealRam.com sells 16gb of ram (eight 2gb cards) for $1600 (far less than from any manufacturer).
As for the games, I didn't realize Battlefield 2 was a low-end game. I had (mistakenly) assumed that since it is less than 6 months old, it would have been more demanding. Toca Racer 3 was also screaming fast. The reports I heard from others were about Doom 3 and Half Life 2, both which were said to be running VERY fast. I've been meaning to try out Oblivion, if I do I'll let you know.
Just a side-note. I read up a lot of people's specs in the "Show off your comp" thread, and it doesn't look like anyone here has a machine comparable to mine. A few have nicer graphics cards, some have larger hard drives, but on the whole all of these 'custom built' machines I've seen here have equal or smaller hard drives, smaller-resolution monitors, only single-layer dvd burners, half or a quarter of the ram I have, no bluetooth, no wireless card, no gigabit network card, etc. Did everybody just go out to save all the cash they could and settle for building smaller machines? I only spent $1900...
Edit: I must admit, Aero's machine totally beats mine, especially with his new upgrades. Templar's also beats mine due to his much faster processor. Master's is about equal, so I guess I'm tied for third out of all of the machines (self-built and otherwise) that were mentioned.
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Post by (KA)50 §£n† on Jun 21, 2006 21:55:46 GMT -5
like i said my mac has never crashed or had a virus so??? yeah  |
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